Greetings all! Well! I just started re-studying the DNS aspect. The docs under Vmin might just as well be in Arkkadian (world's oldest formed language)to me. It is a Dark Zone.
I will one day hope to help other Newbies as soon as I can understand things! :-)
In the meanwhile what about: http://opendns.com ? Having just found it, it reads like a "must have/do" thing. If it turns out to be what it looks like, I'll certainly write it up for the Docs. Any commentary welcome.
Any other pointers to some simpler info on the DNS issue would be welcome. Esp. how come it is basically all on auto at the better Shared Hosting or even Dom sales operators? (My experience (competent User,non-geek) over the years has never seen any problems like these I'm currently experiencing. This was with a lot of shared hosts and all under CPanel/WHM till I moved to Webmin/Vmin and my own little Server, principally due to overloaded Shared Servers constantly crashing upon ANY real load).
I certainly know from long experience that most "Webmasters" tend to be kids with more chutzpah than skills and yet they somehow manage to get millions of innocents onto their wonky systems with overall, very few problems.
They certainly couldn't even read, let alone follow, the highly technical instructions provided by our resident expertise here!!! :-)
So, I'm going back to go through the demo movies yet again. There must be something simple I am missing here..... Compared to this last year or two, learning to fly was a snack! AND not some easy wank with a propellor, either. I flew Gliders, till my nerve broke. :-)
Like Alladin, I seek the magic word. It has to be simple in the end. Even Wally is doing it....
Cheers! A.K.A. Diogenes Note: All I try to do is a standard Webmin/Vmin install, no great demands - all vanilla. No tricky bits or demands at all.
Must have/do for what? If you don't want to run DNS on your own systems, then yes, it's fine. But if you're trying to simplify your life, it's the wrong direction to be facing. Virtualmin can't manage DNS records at OpenDNS. It can manage records on your own system.
The docs under Vmin might just as well be in Arkkadian (world's oldest formed language)to me. It is a Dark Zone.If you can give us a specific question, we can help, and I can update the docs to be more helpful.
Any other pointers to some *simpler* info on the DNS issue would be welcome. Esp. how come it is basically all on auto at the better Shared Hosting or even Dom sales operators?For the same reason it's on auto in Virtualmin: Nobody wants to deal with DNS. It's boring and tedious, so we let machines do it for us.
It sounds like maybe you're implying that Virtualmin is not doing everything automatically. Unless you've explicitly disabled DNS support, Virtualmin sets up all the records you need for full-featured virtual hosting. The only thing is does not setup is the glue records at the registrar, and this is something that it simply cannot do, because Virtualmin doesn't have access to your registrar (that's not entirely true--the Domain Registration plugin allows Virtualmin to setup most things at Register.com, if they happen to be your registrar).
My experience (competent User,non-geek) over the years has never seen any problems like these I'm currently experiencing.If you won't tell us what the "problems like these" actually are, we cannot help you.
So, I'm going back to go through the demo movies yet again.The demo is just that, a demo. If you want to know about DNS, and you didn't find what you were looking for at Doxfer and in our documentation section here (see links below), then ask a question and we'll help you!
I'm getting the very clear impression that you're having a hard time getting things working the way you want...but I don't know what problems you're having. I'd love to help, but you're giving me nothing to go on.
Useful docs for DNS:
Troubleshooting DNS problems:
http://doxfer.webmin.com/Webmin/BINDTroubleshootingTools
More troubleshooting:
http://www.virtualmin.com/documentation/id,dns_troubleshooting/
Deeper BIND coverage:
http://doxfer.webmin.com/Webmin/BINDDNSServer
Now, if you'll just give us an actual question or an actual problem description, we can help you solve it. I'm sure your system is not the flaming pile of wreckage that you seem to think it has already become in the week since installation. ;-)
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Hi Joe,
Good example here of life in the underworld - I did try and post this answer previously - don't know why it didn't get through.
Just noticed my last looong one did - TWICE! ??
In response to yours:
Must have/do for what? If you don't want to run DNS on your own systems, then yes, it's fine. But if you're trying to simplify your life, it's the wrong direction to be facing. Virtualmin can't manage DNS records at OpenDNS. It can manage records on your own system.
<i>Well, the pitch on their Site was very impressive.:-) Talked about having not had the last big security problem out there, and because of multi-locations, very fast to service requests.
Actually, I thought it was a better idea NOT to run my own DNS Servers by my reading....
Simple I like. That's what I thought OpenDNS offered. THEY did the work/worry.
(I'd still be on Shared Servers if I could trust them at all to perform.)</i>
If you can give us a specific question, we can help, and I can update the docs to be more helpful.
<i>Aye, there's the rub. Us Newbies don't know what question to ask! It's probably already in those very comprehensive docs..... somewhere.
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For the same reason it's on auto in Virtualmin: Nobody wants to deal with DNS. It's boring and tedious, so we let machines do it for us.
<i>Hmmmnnn, methinks this might be the problem area.
Could it be somehow turned off/broke in my install? I didn't turn anything off, but I did try and sign up with OpenDNS (nothing changes according to them).</i>
It sounds like maybe you're implying that Virtualmin is not doing everything automatically. Unless you've explicitly disabled DNS support, Virtualmin sets up all the records you need for full-featured virtual hosting. The only thing is does not setup is the glue records at the registrar,......
<i>"Glue" records? Have to go look that up, too </i>
The demo is just that, a demo.
<i>Yeh, but I followed it slavishly.. :-)</i>
Useful docs for DNS:
Troubleshooting DNS problems:
http://doxfer.com/Webmin/BINDTroubleshootingTools
<i>Does not work
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More troubleshooting:
http://www.virtualmin.com/documentation/id,dns_troubleshooting/
<i>DOES Work. Will be useful if I can ever get in to the box! :-)
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Deeper BIND coverage:
http://doxfer.com/Webmin/BINDDNSServer
<i>Does not work, either.</i>
Now, if you'll just give us an actual question or an actual problem description, we can help you solve it.
<i>That is the problem. Beyond saying that I can't access Vmin:10000, but everything outside seems to work, I don't know what to say. Never experienced anything remotely like it.
That's why I thought reload is the only sensible option.
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Respectfully,
Him AGAIN